IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad Pre-Order Program Start

F/JG300_Vylsain a écrit:

Après, tu connais mieux le FMB de RoF que moi et je veux bien te croire si tu me dis que toutes ces limitations ne sont pas valables.

F/JG300_Vylsain a écrit:
Après, si cette limite est principalement dûe au chargement des skins et qu'elle n'existe plus dès lors que cette option est désactivée, c'est plus un problème de bandwidth que de types d'avion et j'imagine que tu peux mettre autant de types d'avions que tu veux.

Jason Williams a écrit:
Guys,

Before this blows up into a nasty thread let me state our current position and some history behind it.

What the community at large wants in a mission editor is not what our full mission editor is. We released the ME to everyone for ROF as a courtesy and the result was a huge outcry for a simpler editor that we could not provide and still cannot provide to this day. So we said take your time and learn it if you really want to make missions. That was 5 years ago and the response from the community was tepid and only a handful of mission makers emerged in that time and became proficient. The demand continues to be give us an easier to understand ME. We have received hundreds of emails asking for tech support for our ROF ME of which we do not have the time to provide such support. We can argue all day about the positives and negatives of the wisdom of releasing the ROF ME to the public. There are differing opinions, but what the community usually fails to see is the impact such decisions have on the team. And we have a different perspective in that we see what you tell us directly and it is sometimes quite different from what you all tell each other on the forum.

Also, when we announced BOS we got a ton of emails from experienced users wanting to make missions for us and try to make payware campaigns etc. The number one request was "Give us a simpler editor, we cannot understand your current one and even if we do, it is too burdensome to use efficiently." We told these users to go try to make missions with ROF editor and come back later. The result was no one came back to us and showed us they could make anything with it. So why would we think releasing such an editor for BOS would help sales if not even experienced mission makers can use it? All that told us was that we need a simpler editor in the long term.

What Loft essentially stated in his latest round of answering questions was this: Knowing what we do about the community's love or lack thereof for our current ROF-style ME, that we would work with those that we know can provide custom missions for the community without burdening the novice mission makers with our ROF-style ME. Which if we did, would only unleash another wave of tech support requests from angry users who can't figure it out and endlessly berate us in public for such a complicated design. And when we tell them that we do not provide such support they only get angrier. So, Loft and the rest of the team including me is trying to find a compromise that can give BOS users a stream of custom community made missions on top of the QMB and Campaign system which is where most users spend their time anyways.

As Loft stated and as I have stated before, we are on a tight schedule and a new ME that is more intuitive would be great, but to make that would take a lot of resources that we don't currently have.

So, in the end we are left with, give no one the ME and upset some people or give everyone the ME and deal with the confusion and negativity that will bring or find a compromise which is what we are looking at. Hopefully we can find the resources at some point to make a new ME that is simpler to use. But that depends on the popularity of the initial product. So that puts us in a chicken or the egg situation which is the same damn situation we have been in for years.

Jason

RTA_Goliat a écrit:Ils viennent de se tirer une balle dans le pied...

Vylsain a écrit:Bon et bien au moins je sais pourquoi j'étais inquiet maintenant... Laughing

So, in the end we are left with, give no one the ME and upset some people or give everyone the ME and deal with the confusion and negativity that will bring or find a compromise which is what we are looking at. Hopefully we can find the resources at some point to make a new ME that is simpler to use. But that depends on the popularity of the initial product.

GR_2/33_Ploofy a écrit:C'est un jeu spécial "GEFUV" de reprendre des informations complétement fausses et/ou déformées ??  

C'est désespérant  !   

L’éditeur de mission sera disponible POUR TOUT LE MONDE à la sortie du jeu

et n'allez pas me faire croire que le fait qu'il ne sera disponible uniquement pour quelques "spécialistes" pendant la version béta va vous manquer, hein !   

Jason Williams a écrit:Unfortunately, I am forced to read english from Moscow sometimes that is a bit rough and even I can get confused as to the plans that have been decided. Sometimes, my comments seem to contradict what Zak and Loft write. It is not my sole decision to release the ME or not. I am one part of the management team and can only suggest what to do on topics such as this. In this case, it has been decided to give the ME to a few trusted users who can work on some content for the community. And then later, after release the plan is to release the ME either as it is now or maybe with some improvements. When that happens we don't know and what possible improvements may occur we also don't know.

Jason

F/JG300_Webert a écrit:C'est bien beau tous ça, mais il est ou mon JU52    ?